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Sep 28 16 7:22 PM

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I was just wondering what people's thoughts are on comics that are incomplete and clearly aren't going to update again, but are still around floating in web limbo.

One example I was reminded of the other day and decided to take a peak at again was Ever After by Endling.

http://snafu-comics.com/swmcomic/page-1/

I tend to think of Ever After as "the good comic" on Snafu. Actually fairly appealing and professional looking art style, interesting premise (fairy tale characters in a sort of dark futurastic mental asylum that's still a bit cartoony), and decent writing, although it didn't really go long enough to really tell if the story would pan out well. It's also dead and buried deep, with no updates since 2008. Short of a miracle, it's probably never going to update again, much less finish.

There have been other webcomics that I've come across like this. Clearly dead, either because they haven't had an update in years, or the author has outright stated that they're done. (Another one that I enjoyed and that's name I can't remember for the life of me involved a guy who moved into a new place and his wacky purple haired friend. He starts getting letters from a mail slot in his wall and the letters led them to accidentally help or hurt people, or some combination of both when they follow the vague instructions written on them. Then they get attacked by some sort of Cthulu possessed girl scout and then the comic ends. If you know this comic and know the name, please tell me, because it's really bugging me that I can't remember.)

What do you think of long dead comics on the web? Have you read any comics like this? Will you not bother reading a comic if you know that it isn't going to finish? Or do you think it can still be worthwhile if the comic is good?
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Sep 29 16 12:14 AM

I have been reading webcomics for well over 15 years. I have seen so many good comics come, go and disappear from the internet as their site hosting shut down

...also seen a lot of bad ones go the same way, but that doesn't upset me nearly as much.

At least some of the good comics just exist now as archive sites, no longer updating , but still accessible.

I recall one comic called Everything Jake - http://www.everythingjake.com/

Quite interesting, from what I remember. It died officially back in 2013, though it had switched to lengthy text updates instead of comic pages a while before that. Interesting stuff about a college guy (Jake) who had secret telekinetic powers which had been locked away, and various conspiracies and stuff trying to convert/kidnap/exploit/empower him. Also college drama.

There was also a furry superhero comic I recall... it died around the same time - the cartoonist just up and vanished, and the whole comic site did the same. I can't even remember the name of the comic, which is kinda sad. It was the first webcomic I drew fanart of. I think its name was Turbo? Maybe? I'm honestly not sure - it died a long time ago.

Hell, my webcomic bookmarks folder is basically a graveyard of dead links.

mechanical girl Lisa A.N.T - I liked that one. It was silly, but I liked it: http://ant.comicgen.com

Bad Bunny - a demonic bunny (think super edgy sort-of western anime style catgirl) in hell. Interesting style and aesthetic, and interesting setting too: Hell had been 'invaded' by mortal corporations to exploit the cheap labor (damned to toil in eternity for free? Yes please) - and heaven was ruled by half-breed demons that had styled themselves as holy. It was unique to put it mildly.

Mondo Mecho - http://www.ragathol.com/index.html - died back in 2006. Fuck me. About cyborgs and shit. Really well drawn, anime style, interesting setting. Themed around human/robot rights (if you go 51% cyborg you are classified as a robot and lose your human rights... that sort of stuff)

Sexylosers @ http://www.sexylosers.com/ - anime smut comedy. Also known as the Thin H Line. Amused me endlessly back in the days. Suicide hotline helmed by a necrophilac? Yes. homocidal blow-up doll fairy? Yes. reanimate blow-up doll that commits suicide, which is then found by the necrophiliac? That shit was hilarious.

Oh this brings back memories...

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Sep 29 16 4:11 PM

I really liked A Modest Destiny (one of the few sprite comics I'd ever recommend), but sadly it died on the penultimate chapter. It could come back, but that seems unlikely.

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Oct 2 16 7:19 AM

First and foremost by far, I hope the creator of this one is all right.

If they are OK which is the number one priority that everything pales into insignificance in front of, I hope this webcomic hasn't joined the ranks of the fallen as I've really enjoyed it so far.

The Night Belongs to Us

http://tnbtu.com

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Oct 2 16 1:18 PM

Geez, this thread is like Pandora's Box: only read it to unleash misery and sadness on the world. So many neat-looking comics I don't wanna start reading bc I know I'd end disappointed.

Hell, I just remembered Warrior-U. I really damn liked that webcomic. It was drawn and written in a style that wouldn't be out of place in the old Cartoon-Cartoons lineup. And one of the villains was a murderous pink unicorn that was the last of its kind... bc he had killed all the other unicorns.

I just made myself sad.

Also Shan, I see the last page of that comic was posted only a few months ago? Don't lose hope yet!

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Oct 2 16 1:24 PM

I know it's only been a few months but the author had been so regularly updating until then and since then, they've disappeared offline with not a peep since then. I just hope they're all right, never mind the comic (though if they are all right, I hope it comes back).

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Oct 2 16 1:49 PM

Had a post on this topic a while back.

http://badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/470/Sudden-death-of-a-webcomic#.V_F7Re-KTIU

Of the three listed within, Mayonaka Densha was especially long running before it abruptly stopped. The other two were Walking the Lethe and Rogue Programming. Links in the other post.

Paradigm Shift is another one.

http://www.paradigmshiftmanga.com/ps/part-one-equilibrium.html

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Oct 2 16 3:17 PM

OK, I've got a sad one.

The Locked Maze.

At least at one time, friend of my friend who does Puck and did a guest comic here:

http://www.puckcomics.com/?comic=puck-185-guest-comic

Completed story which is very highly spoken of called "The Locked Maze".

https://www.gonnageek.com/comics/2013/08/wednesdays-webcomic-the-locked-maze/

I think the author was just a bit ahead of their time, if Patreon had been around just a bit earlier, I think they would have been a big hit on it.

The saddest part is that their Deviant Art profile says "Former Artist".

http://mleiv.deviantart.com

Work I got back was that they went back to computer programming full time and apparently it boiled down to money lack of thereof (and quite possibly a lot of disillusionment). What's left of The Locked Maze online is as far as I can see, incomplete and shredded Six Ways From Sunday.

http://mleiv.deviantart.com/art/The-Locked-Maze-2-Page-8-131776142

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I mean just look at this. I think they had great talent.

In more upbeat news, the maker of The Phoenix Requiem, one-time perennial top place on Top Webcomics and which is complete (at about 800 pages and that's not the only one she's done of similar size, the first one finished in 2007 and that was abut 760 pages) is apparently both computer programming and  still making more art for comics both web and print (possibly ones that start as webcomics and go to print).

http://www.arts-angel.com

That website I think hasn't been updated in a bit but her Twitter was much more recently active and she has said something about getting around to bringing it up to date sooner or later.

 

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Oct 2 16 10:45 PM

In the many years of webcomic reading I have done, I think the most common pattern of webcomic death I have seen is this one: The cartoonist graduates high school or college, and suddenly doesn't have time to make the comic. That's it really.

Sad but true

Reminds of another webcomic I once read: Basic concept, but lots of promise.

It was a furry fantasy comic, about a young student at a not-hogwarts wizard academy. Only the trick was that he couldn't do magic, but got by through magi-tech gadgetry. Teachers didn't like it, but he acheived the effects needed to pass his classes. It just up and disappeared one day. Can't even remember its name.

http://www.catenamanor.com/ - this one died not that long ago. It was a very well drawn slice-o-life comic. It had its moments, especially the costume designs.

http://www.evildivacomics.com/ - I think this one is dead. But... it's blocked in my country (lolwut?) so I can't even check anymore. Either way last time I checked it hadn't updated in almost a year. It had a fun concept though.

http://www.radioactivepanda.com/ - this thing was sort of lolrandum, but it was amusing none the less: Dr. Frankenstein, his werewolf buddy and his zombie tenants and then some go on crazy adventures and try to keep the local rabble from going all "torches and pitchforks" on their asses. Amusing, really well-drawn, died back in 2006. Part of it seems to have continued in this comic: http://stoneclouds.com/ which is still ongoing

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Oct 3 16 3:57 AM

the most common pattern of webcomic death I have seen is this one: The cartoonist graduates high school or college, and suddenly doesn't have time to make the comic.​


​Quoted because yes. This. So much this. This, and health issues. People just randomly quitting or losing interest happens but very rarely. The vast majority of dead comics happen when the creator no longer has the time or health to tend to them.

​It's particularly sad when their last post is, or they occasionally still give updates that say, "soon I might be able to get back to this".

​*looks in the mirror*
​oh.


​That being said, I lost all my webcomic bookmarks a year ago when my hard drive failed and forgot 99% of them.
​The only one I recall that died forever out of the ones I was following is Ears for Elves. It had a basic plot, basic premise, pretty straightforward characters, but it's one of the few comics I followed on every update and commented on, because I liked how easy going, friendly and dedicated the artist was (and the art was steadily improving). I had super high hopes for it becoming really good one day, but the creator just ended with this update years ago. The comment section is depressing.

​The other example is sort of not really an example because it came back from the dead after a couple of years, Demon of the Underground. Super ...underground... comic (I'M SORRY). Artist just vanished after one update, eventually fans tracked down someone who knew someone who knew her and found out she was alive, but dealing with pretty bad health issues. Readerbase took a huge hit during the absence, so it became impossible for her to dedicate herself properly to it anymore (as properly as before), but I'm eternally grateful to the universe that the comic is back.

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Oct 9 16 9:05 AM

That Demon of the Underground comic looks like it might interest me...

SPEAKING OF dead webcomics I just remembered one I used to follow a lot. But not because it was good, no no. It was because the writing was terrible. Like "goodness gracious did you ever stop to think seriously about this before putting it on paper I guess not" kind of bad. Like, it took two characters that had barely talked to each other in the course of the series (a PG-rated series might I add) and made a story about them being in highschool and sporting personalities completely different to their actual ones... which actually made no sense whatsoever. Like, I don't care how many writing stunts you pull to try to justify such change, nobody would buy said premise in a million years, hon.

Also swimming competitions bc Free! was popular at the time.

Then again, it was a shipping comic for a fandom known for dumb pairings so it was pretty expected.

Then one day the author got bored of the fandom and announced they weren't gonna continue the comic. Sad. I wanted to keep watching the trainwreck.

Imma go count the pages because seriously, I think I'd have fun writing a review of it.

In the meanwhile, try to guess the fandom that webcomic belonged to. Go on. The answer is so enragingly stupid.

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Oct 10 16 1:04 AM

UglyHyena wrote:
That Demon of the Underground comic looks like it might interest me...

SPEAKING OF dead webcomics I just remembered one I used to follow a lot. But not because it was good, no no. It was because the writing was terrible. Like "goodness gracious did you ever stop to think seriously about this before putting it on paper I guess not" kind of bad. Like, it took two characters that had barely talked to each other in the course of the series (a PG-rated series might I add) and made a story about them being in highschool and sporting personalities completely different to their actual ones... which actually made no sense whatsoever. Like, I don't care how many writing stunts you pull to try to justify such change, nobody would buy said premise in a million years, hon.

Also swimming competitions bc Free! was popular at the time.

Then again, it was a shipping comic for a fandom known for dumb pairings so it was pretty expected.

Then one day the author got bored of the fandom and announced they weren't gonna continue the comic. Sad. I wanted to keep watching the trainwreck.

Imma go count the pages because seriously, I think I'd have fun writing a review of it.

In the meanwhile, try to guess the fandom that webcomic belonged to. Go on. The answer is so enragingly stupid.

Given what I know of TVTropes, probably Homestuck or the "Walkyverse".

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Oct 10 16 8:18 AM

You are pretty close with the "TVTropes" thing bc that is where I found the (unfavorable) review that led me to check the comic. But like, I forgot to add it wasn't a fancomic of a webcomic, but of a cartoon. Seriously, what the frick is wrong with the Cartoon Network fandom?

Also, "Walkyverse"? David Willis has a verse? Farewell, my faith in humanity.

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Oct 12 16 4:24 PM

The Fox Siseter was a comic based on Korean lore. It stopped updating a while ago when the writer got a job writing for television
Todd Alison on the Petunia Violet just randomly stopped updating a while ago. Apparently the artist has started exclusively writing manga in Japanese and doesn't interact with western fans much anymore. I don't think I was as into at as some people, but there were so damn many loose threads that the whole thing is still pretty irritating

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Oct 12 16 4:48 PM

Todd Alison on the Petunia Violet is dead!? Damnit! I love that webcomic! I kinda lost track of it when the magazine it was first published in closed, but awww :c

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Oct 13 16 12:19 AM

I faintly recall a webcomic I briefly read many years ago

It was a furry one, slice of life, about a cat woman who started to take self defence classes - and who ended up falling in love with her female instructor. It was rather cute - but I lost the link to a reformat once, and I've never been able to find it since. Considering how long ago it was, then its probably long dead by now.

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